diff --git a/projects/natural/src/lib/classes/abstract-list.ts b/projects/natural/src/lib/classes/abstract-list.ts
index 757032c9..1dbb7eb1 100644
--- a/projects/natural/src/lib/classes/abstract-list.ts
+++ b/projects/natural/src/lib/classes/abstract-list.ts
@@ -569,7 +569,7 @@ export class NaturalAbstractList<
     }
 
     /**
-     * Delete multiple items at once
+     * Delete multiple items at once, and then refresh the list of items automatically
      */
     protected bulkDelete(): Observable<void> {
         const subject = new Subject<void>();
@@ -581,12 +581,17 @@ export class NaturalAbstractList<
                 // never call this method.
                 const selection = this.selection.selected as {id: string}[];
 
-                this.service.delete(selection).subscribe(() => {
-                    this.selection.clear();
-                    this.alertService.info($localize`Supprimé`);
-                    subject.next();
-                    subject.complete();
-                });
+                this.service
+                    .delete(selection, {
+                        refetchQueries: this.service.allQuery ? [this.service.allQuery] : [],
+                        awaitRefetchQueries: true,
+                    })
+                    .subscribe(() => {
+                        this.selection.clear();
+                        this.alertService.info($localize`Supprimé`);
+                        subject.next();
+                        subject.complete();
+                    });
             }
         });
 
diff --git a/projects/natural/src/lib/services/abstract-model.service.spec.ts b/projects/natural/src/lib/services/abstract-model.service.spec.ts
index ef26162a..f822beb5 100644
--- a/projects/natural/src/lib/services/abstract-model.service.spec.ts
+++ b/projects/natural/src/lib/services/abstract-model.service.spec.ts
@@ -8,7 +8,6 @@ import {type Literal} from '../types/types';
 import {NullService} from '../testing/null.service';
 import {Apollo} from 'apollo-angular';
 import {takeWhile} from 'rxjs/operators';
-import {type ObservableQuery} from '@apollo/client';
 
 const observableError =
     'Cannot use Observable as variables. Instead you should use .subscribe() to call the method with a real value';
@@ -27,41 +26,6 @@ describe('NaturalAbstractModelService', () => {
             service = TestBed.inject(PostService);
         });
 
-        it('should be delay deleted resolving', fakeAsync(() => {
-            const apollo = TestBed.inject(Apollo);
-
-            let resolveMyPromise: (value: ObservableQuery.Result<any>[]) => void;
-            apollo.client.refetchObservableQueries = () =>
-                new Promise<ObservableQuery.Result<any>[]>(resolve => {
-                    resolveMyPromise = resolve;
-                });
-
-            let resolved = false;
-            let completed = false;
-            service.delete([{id: '123'}]).subscribe({
-                next: () => {
-                    resolved = true;
-                },
-                complete: () => {
-                    completed = true;
-                },
-            });
-
-            expect(resolved).toBeFalse();
-            expect(completed).toBeFalse();
-
-            tick(2000);
-
-            expect(resolved).toBeFalse();
-            expect(completed).toBeFalse();
-
-            resolveMyPromise!([]);
-            tick(2000);
-
-            expect(resolved).toBeTrue();
-            expect(completed).toBeTrue();
-        }));
-
         it('should be created', () => {
             expect(service).toBeTruthy();
         });
@@ -233,7 +197,7 @@ describe('NaturalAbstractModelService', () => {
             };
 
             let creationResult: any;
-            const creation = service.createOrUpdate(input, true);
+            const creation = service.createOrUpdate(input);
             creation.subscribe(v => (creationResult = v));
 
             // After create, should be usual object after creation
@@ -243,11 +207,11 @@ describe('NaturalAbstractModelService', () => {
 
             // Create or update again
             let updateResult: any;
-            const update = service.createOrUpdate(creationResult, true);
+            const update = service.createOrUpdate(creationResult);
             update.subscribe(v => (updateResult = v));
 
             // should show created + updated objects merged
-            tick();
+            tick(5000);
             expect('updateDate' in updateResult).toBeTrue();
 
             flush();
@@ -263,11 +227,11 @@ describe('NaturalAbstractModelService', () => {
             let repeatedResult: any = null;
 
             // Create, should be cached
-            const creation = service.createOrUpdate(input, true);
+            const creation = service.createOrUpdate(input);
             creation.subscribe(res => (result = res));
 
             // Repeated create should wait for the first creation, then update the object
-            const repeatedCreation = service.createOrUpdate(input, true);
+            const repeatedCreation = service.createOrUpdate(input);
             repeatedCreation.subscribe(res => (repeatedResult = res));
 
             tick(5000);
diff --git a/projects/natural/src/lib/services/abstract-model.service.ts b/projects/natural/src/lib/services/abstract-model.service.ts
index 48f38963..7f377373 100644
--- a/projects/natural/src/lib/services/abstract-model.service.ts
+++ b/projects/natural/src/lib/services/abstract-model.service.ts
@@ -1,5 +1,11 @@
 import {Apollo, gql, onlyCompleteData} from 'apollo-angular';
-import {type ApolloLink, NetworkStatus, type ObservableQuery, type WatchQueryFetchPolicy} from '@apollo/client';
+import {
+    type ApolloLink,
+    NetworkStatus,
+    type ObservableQuery,
+    type OperationVariables,
+    type WatchQueryFetchPolicy,
+} from '@apollo/client';
 import {
     type AbstractControl,
     type AsyncValidatorFn,
@@ -10,7 +16,7 @@ import {
 import {type DocumentNode} from 'graphql';
 import {merge, pick} from 'es-toolkit';
 import {defaults} from 'es-toolkit/compat';
-import {catchError, combineLatest, EMPTY, first, from, Observable, of, type OperatorFunction} from 'rxjs';
+import {catchError, combineLatest, EMPTY, first, Observable, of, type OperatorFunction} from 'rxjs';
 import {debounceTime, filter, map, shareReplay, startWith, switchMap, takeWhile, tap} from 'rxjs/operators';
 import {NaturalQueryVariablesManager, type QueryVariables} from '../classes/query-variable-manager';
 import {type Literal} from '../types/types';
@@ -32,6 +38,11 @@ export type FormControls = Record<string, AbstractControl>;
 
 export type WithId<T> = {id: string} & T;
 
+export type MutateOptionsWithoutVariables<Tcreate, Vcreate extends OperationVariables> = Omit<
+    Apollo.MutateOptions<Tcreate, Vcreate>,
+    'mutation' | 'variables'
+>;
+
 export abstract class NaturalAbstractModelService<
     Tone,
     Vone extends {id: string},
@@ -68,7 +79,7 @@ export abstract class NaturalAbstractModelService<
     public constructor(
         protected readonly name: string,
         protected readonly oneQuery: DocumentNode | null,
-        protected readonly allQuery: DocumentNode | null,
+        public readonly allQuery: DocumentNode | null,
         protected readonly createMutation: DocumentNode | null,
         protected readonly updateMutation: DocumentNode | null,
         protected readonly deleteMutation: DocumentNode | null,
@@ -313,13 +324,10 @@ export abstract class NaturalAbstractModelService<
      * This functions allow to quickly create or update objects.
      *
      * Manages a "creation is pending" status, and update when creation is ready.
-     * Uses regular update/updateNow and create methods.
-     * Used mainly when editing multiple objects in same controller (like in editable arrays)
+     * Uses regular `create()` (with immediate effect) and `update()` (with debounced effect) methods.
+     * Used mainly when editing multiple objects in the same controller, like in editable arrays.
      */
-    public createOrUpdate(
-        object: Vcreate['input'] | WithId<Vupdate['input']>,
-        now = false,
-    ): Observable<Tcreate | Tupdate> {
+    public createOrUpdate(object: Vcreate['input'] | WithId<Vupdate['input']>): Observable<Tcreate | Tupdate> {
         this.throwIfObservable(object);
         this.throwIfNotQuery(this.createMutation);
         this.throwIfNotQuery(this.updateMutation);
@@ -339,12 +347,7 @@ export abstract class NaturalAbstractModelService<
 
         // If object has Id, just save it
         if ('id' in object && object.id) {
-            if (now) {
-                // used mainly for tests, because lodash debounced used in update() does not work fine with fakeAsync and tick()
-                return this.updateNow(object as WithId<Vupdate['input']>);
-            } else {
-                return this.update(object as WithId<Vupdate['input']>);
-            }
+            return this.update(object as WithId<Vupdate['input']>);
         }
 
         // If object was not saving, and has no ID, create it
@@ -362,9 +365,12 @@ export abstract class NaturalAbstractModelService<
     }
 
     /**
-     * Create an object in DB and then refetch the list of objects
+     * Create an object in DB
      */
-    public create(object: Vcreate['input']): Observable<Tcreate> {
+    public create(
+        object: Vcreate['input'],
+        options: MutateOptionsWithoutVariables<Literal, Literal> = {},
+    ): Observable<Tcreate> {
         this.throwIfObservable(object);
         this.throwIfNotQuery(this.createMutation);
 
@@ -375,15 +381,11 @@ export abstract class NaturalAbstractModelService<
 
         return this.apollo
             .mutate<Tcreate, Vcreate>({
+                ...(options as MutateOptionsWithoutVariables<Tcreate, Vcreate>),
                 mutation: this.createMutation,
                 variables: variables,
             })
-            .pipe(
-                map(result => {
-                    this.apollo.client.refetchObservableQueries();
-                    return this.mapCreation(result);
-                }),
-            );
+            .pipe(map(result => this.mapCreation(result)));
     }
 
     /**
@@ -402,7 +404,10 @@ export abstract class NaturalAbstractModelService<
     /**
      * Update an object immediately when subscribing
      */
-    public updateNow(object: WithId<Vupdate['input']>): Observable<Tupdate> {
+    public updateNow(
+        object: WithId<Vupdate['input']>,
+        options: MutateOptionsWithoutVariables<Literal, Literal> = {},
+    ): Observable<Tupdate> {
         this.throwIfObservable(object);
         this.throwIfNotQuery(this.updateMutation);
 
@@ -416,21 +421,20 @@ export abstract class NaturalAbstractModelService<
 
         return this.apollo
             .mutate<Tupdate, Vupdate>({
+                ...(options as MutateOptionsWithoutVariables<Tupdate, Vupdate>),
                 mutation: this.updateMutation,
                 variables: variables,
             })
-            .pipe(
-                map(result => {
-                    this.apollo.client.refetchObservableQueries();
-                    return this.mapUpdate(result);
-                }),
-            );
+            .pipe(map(result => this.mapUpdate(result)));
     }
 
     /**
-     * Delete objects and then refetch the list of objects
+     * Delete objects
      */
-    public delete(objects: {id: string}[]): Observable<Tdelete> {
+    public delete(
+        objects: {id: string}[],
+        options: MutateOptionsWithoutVariables<Literal, Literal> = {},
+    ): Observable<Tdelete> {
         this.throwIfObservable(objects);
         this.throwIfNotQuery(this.deleteMutation);
 
@@ -449,17 +453,11 @@ export abstract class NaturalAbstractModelService<
 
         return this.apollo
             .mutate<Tdelete, Vdelete>({
+                ...(options as MutateOptionsWithoutVariables<Tdelete, Vdelete>),
                 mutation: this.deleteMutation,
                 variables: variables,
             })
-            .pipe(
-                // Delay the observable until Apollo refetch is completed
-                switchMap(result => {
-                    const mappedResult = this.mapDelete(result);
-
-                    return from(this.apollo.client.refetchObservableQueries()).pipe(map(() => mappedResult));
-                }),
-            );
+            .pipe(map(result => this.mapDelete(result)));
     }
 
     /**